Water Board until Brain Washed
I posted this comment over at MoDo's site. She was going on about how Pelosi got caught in that political tar-baby: Americans don't do torture, waterboarding is torture even if it can't kill. What did you know and when did you know it? Is this going to be Hitchcock's MacGuffin in some sort of liberal McCarthyism?
At any rate, I remembered the story from the Godfather of the man who came to ask a favor during the Godfather's daughter's wedding, knowing that by tradition the Godfather must try and fulfill, and he told of the Italian solider POW who was working in his bakery and had developed a relationship with his daughter. The wedding petitioner wanted the Godfather to try and keep the boy in America after the war so he could marry his daughter. It was in the book. I don't remember if it was in the movie, but it got me to thinking about how we have treated the POWs we hold.
Anyway here is what I posted. I like going back the next day and seeing if I'm selected for "Editor Choice" or how many votes of recommendation I can get. I have not done very well with MoDo, Frank Rich, and Krugman, but so it goes. Here it is with, alas, editorial corrections.
I remember growing up reading stories of POWs held by the "Greatest Generation" during WWII. Atrocity occurred as they always do in war, and the old line come marketing segue "What happens on the battlefield stays [on] the battlefield" is timeless, but once the captured enemy was institutionalized by the system, their treatment generally improved.
After the war, Japanese POW told stories of how they feared prior to their capture that they would be eaten by the Americans or treated worse than animals – and there is nothing worse than Japanese animal husbandry – and discovered that the living conditions were better than whatever small island they were stationed prior to capture. Stories of ex-POWs who had been held here in the United States returned here after repatriation because even during their incarceration, they saw something like nothing they had at home before the war and they wanted to be a part of it.
We can be sure nothing like that will happen to the GitMo detainees. None of the previous inmates will be bringing flowers to the hospital for some ailing, older Bush as the ex-POW in the Godfather did for the old Don – and later saved his life with Michael. That's never going to happen.
We have created at GitMo the next generation of iconic heroes for Islamic extremist. Move over Osama, the GitMo vets are coming back and moving in with a vengeance. And they will return in fold the hell they received from us. The policy of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Neocons, and their enabler Bush will bear a fruit they never considered - and unintended consequences is the benchmark of their administrations.
Welcome the 21st Century.
At any rate, I remembered the story from the Godfather of the man who came to ask a favor during the Godfather's daughter's wedding, knowing that by tradition the Godfather must try and fulfill, and he told of the Italian solider POW who was working in his bakery and had developed a relationship with his daughter. The wedding petitioner wanted the Godfather to try and keep the boy in America after the war so he could marry his daughter. It was in the book. I don't remember if it was in the movie, but it got me to thinking about how we have treated the POWs we hold.
Anyway here is what I posted. I like going back the next day and seeing if I'm selected for "Editor Choice" or how many votes of recommendation I can get. I have not done very well with MoDo, Frank Rich, and Krugman, but so it goes. Here it is with, alas, editorial corrections.
I remember growing up reading stories of POWs held by the "Greatest Generation" during WWII. Atrocity occurred as they always do in war, and the old line come marketing segue "What happens on the battlefield stays [on] the battlefield" is timeless, but once the captured enemy was institutionalized by the system, their treatment generally improved.
After the war, Japanese POW told stories of how they feared prior to their capture that they would be eaten by the Americans or treated worse than animals – and there is nothing worse than Japanese animal husbandry – and discovered that the living conditions were better than whatever small island they were stationed prior to capture. Stories of ex-POWs who had been held here in the United States returned here after repatriation because even during their incarceration, they saw something like nothing they had at home before the war and they wanted to be a part of it.
We can be sure nothing like that will happen to the GitMo detainees. None of the previous inmates will be bringing flowers to the hospital for some ailing, older Bush as the ex-POW in the Godfather did for the old Don – and later saved his life with Michael. That's never going to happen.
We have created at GitMo the next generation of iconic heroes for Islamic extremist. Move over Osama, the GitMo vets are coming back and moving in with a vengeance. And they will return in fold the hell they received from us. The policy of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Neocons, and their enabler Bush will bear a fruit they never considered - and unintended consequences is the benchmark of their administrations.
Welcome the 21st Century.
posted by scout29c at 11:14 AM
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